Dear Anglo FB Friends

Dear Anglo FB Friends
5 Sept 2012

Par Lorraine North  |  Publié dans : blogue

Message d'Urbania: Nous avons vu passer ce message sur Facebook et nous avons contacté son auteure pour lui offrir de le partager sur notre blogue. Son message va comme suit...

As an Anglophone, primarily, I am APPALED by the amount of HATE I have been seeing these past few weeks. I’ve actually seen people say THEY ARE SAD that Pauline Marois was not assassinated tonight.

Let me inform your West Island brain; you live in an Anglophone community, you WILL NOT be evacuated in the next few weeks. The West Island will remain as it is because Politics do not work that way.

IT IS A MINORITY GOVERNMENT MEANING they need people to agree with them AND besides, what will really change in your little anglo world? Bigger writing in French for “CENTRE COMMERCIAL FAIRVIEW”?

If you cared at all about the political life of your province you would see that in the past few years QUEBEC has voted more and more for progressive/leftist parties, MEANING: Social housings, women`s rights, taxation of large companies, generic (cheaper) prescription drugs and more rights for the poor. WE ARE QUEBEC. You were BORN/CHOSE TO LIVE HERE and are very lucky to live in the most progressive province in Canada.

But guess what? Canada has not helped you in any way. Stephen Harper is a fucking asshole that will fuck you over and over again in the name of profit. Be mad at your parents and your adult selves for not choosing to learn the French language in a French province. HOW IS THIS NEW?!?! This has been a FRENCH province for YEARS. Now YOU as an ADULT will perhaps realize that in order to live somewhere where the primary language is French YOU SHOULD LEARN IT. It is a dying language in Canada and your inability to understand why francophone want to preserve it IS RACIST.

Think of the change we can demonstrate to the world by letting go of our NEO-LIBERAL leaders. Sure I did not vote for the PQ but I am in every way a separatist because no matter how “BEAUTIFUL” Canada is, borders are imaginary and as long as one of them is willing to understand how FUCKED UP this country is, I will support its separation hoping for a LEFTIST party that will truly make an example of true human right.

FUCK, YOU MAKE ME ASHAMED TO BE AN ANGLOPHONE IN QUEBEC.
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  • I'm sorry but you judgement of canadians is just wrong. you talk about people oposing the PQ minority government as if they are stupid. First of all, the PQ's primary objective is to have independence. so its easy to understand why anglo quebecers aren't happy. of course wishing death to pauline is immature and people should be ashamed. That aside, Ottawa and Stephan Harper do not represent the rest of Canada. this is a concept that quebecers seem to forget or ignore. Have you been in New Brunswick? you'd be surprised how much that province was left to rot in Harpers reign. my point is, do not include canada in harper's ideology. I'm sick of my province trying to get a stupid independence becausewe quebecers think we are so different and our cultureis completely

    9 Fév 2013 | Dale S.

  • I grew up in Montreal as a kid and even though I tried to speak French as often as I could I was treated badly on a regular basis for not having a perfect accent or conjugation. When I was five I went to Centre d'Urgence Salaberry and the doctor, who turned out to be a militant separatist, threatened to set my leg wrong so I could not walk properly again because I was a "Maudite Anglais" Charming. How a five-year-old child could be a threat to a Doctor's culture is anyone's guess. I also had a bus driver refuse to let me off at my stop and drove for four extra stops in the middle of a bitter winter because he overheard my friend and I speaking english. Our schoolbus was plastered by bill 101 stickers given to the Quebecois students by separatist teachers. We had to walk home in little gangs during the referendum for fear of being beaten up. The Quebecois kids in the neighbourhood egged and vandalized the local corner store because the owners were Chinese. It is hard to believe that kids would be inspired to such hatred and violence without being inspired by adults. This is, in a nutshell, the wonderful movement you so happily triumph. Limiting human rights and alienating people and promoting xenophobia and hatred are not methods of protecting a culture. It was not my fault as a kid in Quebec that francophone kids close American music and watched Hollywood movies. You protect a culture be celebrating a culture. But in a city like Montreal with it's 4000 restaurants, there is only one that serves traditional Quebecois cuisine. Contrast that with a city like Dublin where practically every restaurant serves traditional Irish cuisine. Is it part of Quebecois culture to eat sushi and drink cappuccinos because it seems that that is what is going on. Why do Quebecois not support Quebecois culture themselves? Better learn to play the spoons, sing La Bolduc, knit a cap and go to Catholic mass every Sunday.

    6 Oct 2012 | Abe Goodman

  • Lorraine, Bravo, en français, or in English. Quand je vais visiter mon fils aux Îles-de-la-Madeleine, je suis toujours confronté aux dualités linguistiques qui ressemblent beaucoup à ce qui se passe à Montréal. Grosse-Île, très majoritairement anglo, ne fait pas partie de la municipalité des Îles. l'Île d'Entrée, anglo elle aussi, en est partie prenante.

    Quand les Anglos des Îles viennent dans les commerces francos, c'est en English, très majoritairement. Sont chanceux, les anglos du Québec, d'être des citoyens canadiens de première classe. Ils veulent un café au marché Maisonneuve, dans HOMA? Ils le demandent souvent en anglais...et l'obtiennent, sourire en sus! Quand j'étais à Canmore, Alb., il y a quelques années, je n'ai pu avoir mon café être servi en français. Même sans le sourire. Je suis donc chez moi partout au Canada, mais en tant que citoyen de seconde classe?

    80% des anglos sont bilingues au Qc? Pourtant, Statistiques CAN 2006 nous apprend que 357 000 anglos ne peuvent s'exprimer qu'en anglais! Dans l'arrondissement St-Laurent, des enfants francos doivent jouer en anglais car certains de leurs partenaires ne peuvent s'exprimer en french. Quand j'ai joué mon dernier tournoi de hockey dans le West Island, l'arbitrage était unilingue anglo, la bière et les services étaient très majoritairement offerts en English. And so on, so on...

    Je ne suis pas un expert dans le domaine linguistique, mais j'ai la nette impression que les anglos ne veulent tout simplement pas accepter le fait de constituer une minorité au Qc. Leur rêve? Continuer de faire partie de la majorité Canadian.

    Mourrai-je dans mon pays? Le Québec? Je l'espère de tout coeur. Encore une fois bravo Lorraine pour le texte et votre hardiesse à lae publier.

    21 Sept 2012 | Jacques Leduc

  • Dear Anglophone-Separatist,

    Is this the right house for the leader of the "progressive / leftist parties" that Quebec is voting for? Does this mension in West Island look progressive enough?

    http://blogs.montrealgazette.com/2010/03/10/marois-standing-firm-on-8-million-asking-price-for-le-bizard-mansion/

    9 Sept 2012 | nevivia

  • Les moments où nous avons enfin senti que le vent tournait enfin en notre faveur en tant que culture et société propre sont très rares, je me souviens de novembre 76, j'avais 16 ans, j'ai vu et rencontré les gens partout autour de moi, les sourires, l'espoir, la foi; enfin peut être nos enfants perpétueront notre culture...

    Puis vint 80 avec sont référendum trop hâtif, et la monté de la Ryan-Trudeau dégueulasserie, ce jaunisme rétrograde. S'en suivent les années du "cold turkey" lendemain de veille pénible, avec ce visage des vainqueurs si fière d'avoir... rien fait, juste laisser les choses comme elles sont, grises avec cet accent qui n'est pas le notre, ces lois qui ne nous ressemblent en rien, ce quotidien d'acceptations de force entrées dans la gorge, "si je vous ai bien compris, peut être à une prochaine fois?"

    Puis 95 avec un vrai espoir cette fois, les plaies sont pansées, on y retourne, plus matures, plus déterminés.

    La suite est pathétique, le retour de la vieille momie, revenue d'entre les immondices, faire peur aux gens qui croyaient enfin en une liberté de notre culture, une vraie pause, une réelle entente avec l'autre solitude, encore une fois, la peur et en prime la "love in"....

    L'écart entre le « oui » et le « non » a été de 54 288 voix...

    On laisse tomber, devant ce gloussage en crescendo depuis lors, chacun est rentré chez soi, se bouchant les oreilles, étouffant ce rêve viscéral que de pouvoir évoluer dans son pays plutôt que de rétrograder...

    Louise Harel avec son ultime tentative de réunir les morceaux afin d'aller de l'avant : une réussite, Hochelaga est réuni à Westmount, St-Roch à Syllerie et tout le reste ;on passe de l'utopie au réel!

    Puis promesse d'élection, un jeune chien jappe fort et séduit la grande bourgeoisie, ceux qui n’accepterons jamais d'être voisin des b.s. des bas quartiers, des parlants pas d’allure et des placoteux qui parlent un lousy French de bécosses!(dixit pet)

    Victoire de l'ambitieux, et grand dégoût dans tout mon être : on a vraiment fait ça?

    Est ce que les gens se rendent compte des conséquences d'un tel geste?

    Premier acte de loyauté et seul rendu de promesses électorales: la suppression des fusions municipales ; et la lumière fut! Toute la population anglophone peut respirée, il n'y aura pas de goulag, merci St-Jean, la justice existe en ce monde!

    Cet homme est un "Canadian" un politicien fédéral, qui vient prendre un job qu'il n'est pas capable d'avoir où il essai depuis des années, on va y goûter.

    9 ans de déni, de laxisme profond envers ma culture, "tout va bien, la langue et la culture se porte bien" Montréal s'anglicise à une vitesse folle, on ne parle que d'économie, bien content qu'on en parle, mais ça ça va toujours marcher, on est en Amérique je crois.

    9 ans de ça avec tout ce qu'on connaît et tout ce que l'on risque bientôt d'apprendre avec la commission Charbonneau, on a littéralement abandonné le navire question culture et langue, à un point tel que chaque fois que je vais à Montréal j'ai l'impression d'être à Ottawa, les écriteaux sont en français parce que les lois le stipulent, mais pour le reste on s'en crisse puisque personne ne s'occupe de promouvoir notre identité, côté gouvernement.

    Ce soir j'ai un peu beaucoup cette nausée qui me reprend, une année remplie d'effervescence, un raz le bol généralisé, "NON! Pas cette fois ci, ça va faire, tout sent la corruption faut arrêter cette tendance" je devrais sourire, danser, avoir le goût à la fête ... non, rien n'y fait, je fais parti de ce groupe qui fait peur à cette majorité minoritaire dont on parle, qui se sent menacée, qui risque de disparaître si on décide d'appliquer des lois pour empêcher notre assimilation complète, les sondages le disent, la majorité minoritaire n'est pas contente.

    Je suis profondément écœuré de lire et d'entendre tous ces commentaires venant de partout et voulant dicter ma façon de vivre et d'élever mes enfants, primant les états d'âme de gens qui continus de vivre sous la conduite de la reine Victoria, hostie, cette semaine une personne anti Québec est disparue du paysage, est ce qu'on peut s'en réjouir collectivement? OUI, jean charest n'y est plus, on repart sur du papier neuf, donnons nous en la peine, allez, recommençons à sourire, c'est nous la minorité, celle qui risque de disparaître à jamais si on ne prend pas le temps de fêter cette victoire!

    9 Sept 2012 | Yves Lortie

  • we need to ignore the extreme anglos and ignore the extreme francos. These are people who don't want unity, collaboration or evolution. They are attacking the other side simply because they want to remain comfortable on their own side - it's lazy and arrogant. Politics has always about what you're willing to say in public and then group dynamics simplifies and amplifies that general statement. Gray zones and balanced discussions are difficult to amplify unfortunately so we're stuff with people screaming at each other in bad slogans - on both languages and eternal miscommunication between the two extremes. It's up to us (the people in the middle) to push for things that will help both groups indiscriminately - and any other groups around.

    7 Sept 2012 | Daniel R.

  • (Merde, I spelt province wrong a lot. Maybe I need to learn English before I learn French.)

    7 Sept 2012 | Nat Turner

  • I agree that it would be best if Anglos in Quebec learnt French. I wish I so easily had the opportunity to learn to speak another language but I don't live somewhere like Quebec.

    Thanks for reminding people how things work. Quebec will never separate because there will never be enough votes for separation. That said, I'm beginning to wonder if the rest of Canada should hold our own referendum to decide if we want to keep Quebec.

    I'm tired of Quebec celebrating it's wonderfully generous social programs while it receives such massive transfer payments from 'have' provinces. Visiting the provence and seeing many of the benefits of this spending for the residents and realizing how much better off Quebecers are for this than those in my province makes me wonder why there isn't more appreciation in Quebec for the positives that result from being in Confederation. (Plus, how much of this transfer money gets funnelled to the mob or biker gangs through government corruption?) Perhaps it is time for Quebec to pay for its progressiveness.

    BTW, I don't know if it is accurate to describe Quebec so generously with the whole "most progressive provence in the country" given its horrendous record of minority employment in the public sector & the whole "Reasonable Accommodation" fiasco.

    7 Sept 2012 | Nat Turner

  • I respectfully disagree !

    7 Sept 2012 | Andrew Di Manno

  • How can we expect the PQ to protect Quebec, they can't even protect a celebration party from a loser like Bain.

    7 Sept 2012 | Mario

  • Look, you showed up on our shores a few hundred years ago and you were pathetic. You would have starved to death if we hadn't supported you those first few winters! Now you've both over stayed your welcome. English, French... you both came here as immigrants. We really wish you would stop trashing our land and get out now.

    You're like my uncle Bob after he's had three or four too many. You just can't get rid of him! He starts fighting with my aunt Louis and the next thing you know there we are watching the two of them go at it in the middle of my home. Fuck off the lot of you! If you can't get along then at least go away!!!

    7 Sept 2012 | Billy Two Nuts

  • "The line of combat in Quebec's society isn't drawn between anglo and franco but between tolerance and prejudice"

    -Zachary Richard

    7 Sept 2012 | Olivier Carrier

  • Please, from now it's time to be humble with an open mind to built together a better place to live in this province. We, as french quebecer, can live with other peacefully. I have the project in my community of Villeray to built such a bridge of communication with people who speak english. My project is to share both in french and english book inviting participants to read in the other tongue.

    7 Sept 2012 | Richard

  • Lorraine, you ARE an anglo from the west island, what makes you better than everyone else? You moved to the city? Congrats. Many do. You speak french? Congrats. Many do. You hate on the west island like it's the source of all these problems, it's not. There are many francophones living in the west island, alongside their anglo neighbors. It hurts my head that you think this way, you are no better than the rest of us from the west. Grow up.

    6 Sept 2012 | ..What?

  • Lorraine North. I truly believe you are not an anglo. you are posing as one.

    You are here to stir the pot. get the hate going. I found many faults in your rant, but it's OK. you have your opinion and we will respect it.

    I respect whats going on here in Quebec, but it is not my fault that Francophone's across ROC are not treated well. It's not my fault that newspaper blogs are full of hate on both sides. I am a Quebecer, and just want to be treated equal. If you would do that, I may vote PQ.

    I have to say I am impressed with Pauline this time, she is making an effort, and that's all we really want. You would be surprised what you get, with a bit of candy.

    The industry I am in, I deal with both languages everyday. The minute we start to talk politics, it goes back to how the French have been mistreated for hundreds of years. I am tired of this, Two wrongs don't make it right.

    They don't realize the English is community is strong and can move mountains, I have seen it. You should include them in your discussions, include us and you will reap the benefits. It has not worked well for all these years, try something new.

    It's almost like putting the same 5 guys on the power play in hockey, that have not scored in 50 games. Promote the beautiful language, don't shove it down our throat. Virginie has the right idea, she is onto something. Thank You Merci.

    6 Sept 2012 | Anglo-Franco-Italien

  • Lorraine North is full of shit. Since when is French a race? It is a language. Race implies homogeneity. Does she really want to go down that road?

    6 Sept 2012 | Diane

  • Thanks Lorraine for the great post. You give the french community great hopes.

    But i am sad for you when i read what the anglos form your community are writing to you.

    And to Gabriel Deschambault : Gabriel j'y étais en 94 et même en 76 à l'élection du PQ et je peux te dire, en lisant les commentaires de certains "amis" de Lorraine, que rien n'a changé. À l'élection de Lévesque, j'étudiais à Mc Gill et c'était le deuil. Ensuite on l'a traité de nazi et on lui a accolé une moustache Hitlérienne comme on le fait aujourd'hui à Pauline Marois.

    Vive le Québec libre!

    6 Sept 2012 | Dagoat

  • I don't appreciate the assumption in this article that every single west islander is anglo, or that all anglo's don't speak french, or that anglo's who don't speak french live in the west island. Why is the author picking on the west island? This article was written without much previous research. I understand the author's frustration but there is no need to blame anyone or any specific part of Montreal. I am fully bilingual, and I am very proud of it. I don't feel a sense of belonging to either the french or english community. I speak Frenglish, and i live in a french neighborhood on the west side of town. Language should no longer be an issue and it is sad to see that it still is.

    6 Sept 2012 | Bill 101 child

  • Crass and poorly written...I knew major changes to legislation would not be possible without compromise as a majority wasn't achieved. I learned nothing from this article, except that a few commonly believed misconceptions still hold true. One - French is a dying language in North America...not true, numbers have steadily gone up every year. Two - Quebec is the most progressive province...not true, Ontario has a world renowned recycling program rivaled only by some of the more progressive European states, I have trouble finding public recycling containers in even the most urban areas of Montreal. Toronto has even started a ban on bottled water - the FIRST city in the world to do so. Progressive, n'est pas? Let us not forget that Ontarian women can proudly walk the streets without a shirt, feeling the sun upon their breasts as Ontarian legislation doesn't prescribe to puritanical and frankly medieval views of womanhood in 21st century. to As for the other examples of progressive acts stated in this article, Ontario has already push through similar legislation, and long before Quebec. I won't even get into British-Columbia, arguably the 'leftest' province in the Country. Saying something doesn't make it true - doing something does...There is a wicked tendency to talk and complain in this province and an apparent lack of definitive action. Sad to say, but that has become the culture and it's always easier to complain when you have a scapegoat. That's what happens when pride gets in the way of politics, ground-breaking legislation is written, though is does not improve the lives of ALL of it's citizens. This is the opposite of progressive thinking as it divides citizens and pushes truly important issues to the wayside. Progressiveness in it's true nature helps everyone.

    6 Sept 2012 | JFP

  • Ms. North,

    This letter was crass and poorly written. I understand the point you are trying to make, but meeting hate with more hate.... well, we all know how that goes.

    Kind of tired of trashy talk.

    6 Sept 2012 | Anon

  • "Si tu VAINCS un ennemi, il sera toujours ton ennemi. Si tu CONVAINCS un ennemi, il deviendra ton ami."

    (Morihei Ueshiba)

    6 Sept 2012 | Louisette

  • Ms. North -

    1. You honestly think FB & Twitter represent an accurate portrayal of public sentiment?

    2. Have you not seen the hatred spewed by drunken louts at visiting Asians, it runs both ways.

    3. That's because there are asshole in both camps. And in both cases they're the minority.

    4. A propos de l'etat du langue francais ici a Quebec, le taux de bilingualisme selon les 'Anglophones' du Quebec est a environ 90%. C'est un group toutafait integrer dans le culture du Quebec. Certains d'entre eux sents oppresser car, comme un example, les statistiques de l'OQLF indiquent qu'il y a aucun menace contre la stabilité du langue francais a Quebec ou a Montreal. Mais quand on n'arrête pas de dire une minorité qu'ils doivent changer, doit cesser d'utiliser leur langue et, lorsque le gouvernement décide unilatéralement d'appliquer des mesures punitives et draconienne contre une minorité opprimée, même après la grande majorité ont déjà appris le français, il est concevable qu'ils puissent commencer à devenir têtu. Si seulement les plus sages de nos dirigeants promu le français plutôt que de l'appliquer.

    5. All Anglophones live in the West Island eh? You're no better than the worst Franco-Québecois racist. If you want the hate to end, start with yourself.

    6 Sept 2012 | Taylor C. Noakes

  • You are right, chacha. After all, Pierre Elliott Trudeau was from Calgary.

    6 Sept 2012 | Dufort

  • 57% of Quebec voted for either the Liberals or CAQ. So, yeah, not always so left.

    6 Sept 2012 | Bobby

  • You need to get over the most progressive bs. Most progressive legislation that's ever occurred in this country has happened because of Charter challenges and the efforts of people all over this nation. Very little of it happens because of Quebec which tends to play a weak supporting role in confederation rather than the starring role it tends to give itself credit for.

    But of course like the whole " we're so much more cultured" lie Quebeckers tell themselves, it's understandable you feel this way because you provincial bunch never leave your province except for day trips to Burlington VT or holidays in Florida -so you really don't have a clue about the world around you and how it's passing you by.

    6 Sept 2012 | chacha

  • French is so important to protect that we had 50 anglicism per year in the dictionary. Pathetic article made by angry wanna-be anglo. You make me sick.

    6 Sept 2012 | YouresuchanAhole

  • To bad idiots have found their way here, to comment! But then again, it gives even more credits to your status/letter!

    Personally, i come from a french family, was born in Quebec city and my father could not speak english even if his life depended on it! Not that he never tried, oh he DID! But to this day, everybody still wonders what the heckhe was saying!

    I've learned english, because i had english friends who were struggling with french (wich i admit, is not an easy language to learn!) and i wanted to be able to speak as fast as my mind, type of thing!

    I did NOT have to learn it. This is my province, i was born and raised in french...... but i did. For others AND for me. It makes me sad when a new immigrant opens a store and starts his life here, in... chinese only! I'm not stupid, i won't cut him off! Simply because i can still buy from him and just give him time to adapt (after all, what do I know about landing in a whole different country?!)... but when after a year, chinese an english are the only langages he will offer me, being the only store on the my little full french street.... i'd rather he slaps me in the face as i walk in and send me to spend my money elsewhere! Unlike some, i did not get ignorant when he arrived.i gave him time... and business! But after a year he only showed me he had made this country his and i was to live by his ways. Period. In that particular case, he should've chosen Ontario!.... i think!

    But that's me.

    Your message was the highlight of my day! FINALLY .... some sens! (To me, anyways!). Thank you for adressing your "own" this way! You make me proud to have chosen to be bilingual.. i did it out of respect.... and today, you are showng me some in return!

    I work in a hospital and when somebody adresses me with a huge english accent, i reply in english.... i think it's conforting for them. Espacially when they say " you are the first person in a week, to adress me in english!".... Come on! i AM NOT the only bilingual person to work there FOR SURE!!! I think we are missing the point on both sides, about the whole french/english situation. It is very sad!

    Ido NOT wish for to disapear...but i don't think that ignorance is the way to go to save it! French is an amazing langage and i sure wish to pass it on. But i also wish for this feud to end! Canada is big and Quebec is the only french province... if you don't care for it's tonge, what are you STILL doing here?! Seriously!

    Your text is full of sens! .. once again, thank you! Ironically the phrase "les anglais se réveillent" takes a whole new sens, reading people like you!

    Ce fût un réél plaisir de lire votre indignation!

    (Mes sympathies à la famille de Denis Blanchette, tué par un fou furieux!... et non par les anglais! Merci à cet homme d'avoir tenté de nous protéger, au prix trop élevé de votre vie.)

    6 Sept 2012 | claudine

  • Charest nous vole! nous crosse! rit de nous! et pourtant on a jamais essayé de le tuer. pourquoi? parce que nous sommes passif. Jamais je n'ai vu de message de souhait de mort a Charest, pourtant on a plus de raison de vouloir sa mort que les anglo veulent celle de Pauline.

    6 Sept 2012 | Greg

  • I'm a Franco, i speak both languages. I wish there would be some place, somewhere, sometime, where our 2 cultures would unite and stop steping on each other. I do recognise Québec (or should i say Montréal) a bilingual city. But, hearing Anglos saying''French is a dying language and English is the universal language and bla bla bla." is an insult as well as ignorence. There are stupid Anglos and stupid Francos. tHat's the story of Montréal.

    6 Sept 2012 | M.O

  • fact : American Natives are the thrues owners of Québec , most of them do not speek there own Natives laguage , they lose land language abd dignity, now they are stock in small land and our governement do not care about them. That is why I'm effraid to lose my first language but I'll try to speak and wrote in english not because it is the buisness language or helpfull for finding a job ,no, it is juste to have culture , I,ll try to teach my sons english for the same reason, if I could I'll send them in english school but I can'nt it is againts the law . I have a dream like sir Luther King about someday ppl will stop hating other culture just because they have been raise for, and will try to understand each oyher with open mind , and can lives in harmony. I know I dream cuse when I'm up I see a sick nation who need help cuse violand is now the easy way they chose to fix issues . I do not like Pauline Marois , François Legault , Jean Charest, they all have the same views and only wants power, I know other provices do not hate Québekers, I know we are just nipulates by medias, politicians, and now I know if everybody continue to hate each other things will be worst and we gone lose all last generations fight for , I mean in booth side , so please , try to get open mind and be more gentle to each other then we can get a better world dont u think? we fight for liberty, for our rights and for our culture english is a part of our culture Quebec will not be like he is now if anglo wasnt there , if booth side work to teach history to other ppl in our comunity maybe we can work together to keep everybody right, Option National , la coalition pour une contituante , Québec solidaire are the way we can use to be in harmony please think about that ...

    6 Sept 2012 | France Desfossés

  • Merci avant tout de rappeler que nous sommes des êtres humains et bla bla bla, bla bla bla, bla, bla, bla bla. Et merci aussi de rappeler que les anglais nous détestent viscéralement depuis 250 ans et que nous devrions simplement faire pareil ! Fonder notre pays, tout comme ils ont le leur, et nous concentrer sur notre développement, tout comme ils le font eux-mêmes. Est-ce vraiment si difficile à comprendre ?

    6 Sept 2012 | Paul Savoie

  • Nous aussi nous t'aimons Lorraine. You are a true bridge builder. As a gay activists from the early 90's I saw the power of our 2 communities getting and fighting together. We made it and now got our equality. I stood up with people like you, we marched together, laughed and cried together. And that made me a proud Montrealer.

    http://www.xtra.ca/public/Montreal/Montreals_Sex_Garage_raid_A_watershed_moment-7735.aspx

    6 Sept 2012 | Jos Bronswik

  • Man oh man, the love in these posts are unreal.

    Let me put it this way. It does not matter what color you are, what sex you are, whether you are thin, fat, tall, short,gorgeous, ugly, smart, retard, catholic, protestabt, maoist, islamaic, rich, poor, educated or not, French, English, Spanish or what have you.

    There are two types of people in this world (and we must all co-exist on this eartgh in this province) the two types are people, those that have respect for their fellow citizen and there are asshole. Which one are you?

    Je vous dit merci beaucoup d'un québécois qui est carrément écoeuré des crisses de querelles d'ostie d'enfentillage qui nous apporte rien. Le peuple québécois à fait son choix démobtayique le 4 septembre 2012 et on respecte ce choix de tout le monde. Maintenant wst-ce qu'il il faut vatir ensemble ou détruire ensemble.

    Comme ils disent "Act like a Roman while in Rome"

    Agissez comme un québécois au Québec.

    5 Sept 2012 | qchiker

  • Thank you Lorraine. About your fellow anglophones, you have to understand that they belong to an hegemonistic culture beyond who they are individually. Further more, statistics have proven (I have studied arts managment at HEC) that anglo-saxon countrys, even if they have this amazing capacity at integrating people from many national backgrounds, have the lowest percentage of input of foreign culture (translated books, foreign cinema, world music on the radio, etc) in the developped world. This means a limited vue on other cultures other then the cutiecutie ethno-folkoric deal of communautaristic North America. In an other words; other cultures are things you have in the familys and restaurants but of course the common and so called tolerant link could be only english. So the only integrating culture could only be english... This means a total ignorance about Quebec since the québécois culture should be an ethnic thing among other ethni things; maple syrup, cabane à sucre, Saint-Jean. I'm sure you've got a lot of fellow anglos who never red the french newspaper (why read them more than the China Town newpaper or the Italiano corriere?) or consider the option of going to U de M or UQAM or know anything about intellectual debate here; after all, the only reference is the anglo-saxon stuff all the rest being ethnic. So it's not surprising they don't have a clue about Qc nationalism and think we're all retarded and racist. That's what is happening with a hegemonistic culture that has a colonial past here and for long had a dominating and possessing attitude toward Qc. There's nothing you can do. You'll go in Australia or the US, it will be the same thing; about 98% of their inhabitant have never seen anything else than anglo-saxon culture aside some exotic food or disciplines like capoeira in a class (exemple).

    5 Sept 2012 | sylvie Paré

  • Since almost nothing is made in usa, my guess is yanke don't see that mutch of themselves in branding. That's probably why they take good care of the "proudly made" they use at home. I was just making a point about respect of difference. Yet i do know some owners cases, i agree the office is unfair when big corporation do what ever they want by trademarking everything. There is a part where we should go proudly quebec by going to kif kif rather than payless. The funny thing about my quebecicism is that i fell home at my english, irish, greek and italien friends

    5 Sept 2012 | F La

  • Dear Lorraine North.

    Je m'adresse à vous en français, car à la lecture de votre lettre, je comprends que vous comprenez le français. Quant à moi, je lis très bien l'anglais, je comprends assez bien un anglophone s'il ne parle pas vite en utilisant le slang. Il en est autrement lorsqu'il s'agit d'écrire ou de parler anglais, car j'habite dans un milieu à environ 95% francophone et il est rare que je doive m'exprimer en anglais.

    Votre lettre m'aide à penser mes plaies et ma grande peine suite à l'événement d'hier et aussi de ce que j'ai lu comme messages haineux envers les francophones sur les médias sociaux. J'ai senti beaucoup d'agressivité envers les francophones venant autant des chefs politiques, de plusieurs journalistes tant francophones qu'anglophones et de magazines anglophonrd. Ils ont démonisé à qui mieux mieux la chef Pauline Marois, de même que Amir Khadir, chef de Québec solidaire. De vraies campagnes de sallissage en règle.

    Le mot magique pour déclancher cette haine : référendum. À ce que je sache, ce n'est pas une maladie mortelle et s'il y avait un un jour, tous seront libres de répondre oui et non, je vous rappelle que nous sommes dans une démocratie. Les adversaires politiques ont donc brandi cette menace d'un «éventuel» référendum et les dernières semaines de la campagne ont été une montée anti-péquistes allant même nous comparer à des nazis! Du vrai délire!

    J'aime croire que je fais partie d'un peuple tolérant et ouvert, beaucoup plus que les citoyens des autres provinces. Je n'éprouve aucune haine envers qui que ce soit et mon entourage non plus.

    Si seulement les anglophones pouvaient comprendre que nous sommes un village gaulois de 8 millions d'habitants parlant français pour la plupart. Nous sommes noyés dans la mer anglophone de toute l'Amérique. Si nous parlons français encore aujourd'hui tient du miracle.

    Il va sans dire qu'il nous faut être prudents pour conserver notre belle langue et qu'en plus le Québec a le statut de province francophone. Voilà pourquoi la Loi 101 a été adoptée.

    Les anglophones et allophones vivant au Québec sont une minorité qui jouit de tous leurs droits, à partir de médias dans leur langue, des Cégeps dans leur langue, des hôpitaux, des journaux aussi dans leur langue et un choix très varié de chaînes de télévision anglaises.

    Pourquoi nous en vouloir si nous aimons nous faire répondre en français dans les services publics, les restaurants alors que c'est plutôt le contraire qui se produit.

    J'ai vécu quelques années à Montréal fin années 60 et début années 70. On m'a souvent lancé des «Speak White» et je trouvais les montréalais bien tolérants.

    Je conviens que nous sommes différents, plus ouverts aux changements et plus avant-gardistes.

    Ces dernières années, j'ai senti avec inquiétude une montée d'agressivité envers nous.

    Et pourtant Nous devrions en vouloir aux anglophones qui ont déporté les Acadiens et qui en 1837 ont pratiqué la politique de la terre brûlée en incendiant toutes les fermes longeant le St-Laurent, pillant, abattant les animaux, violant les femmes.

    Aujourd'hui, quel plaisir de vous lire, vous une anglophone qui avoue aimer la francophonie et la défend !

    Quel acte de bravoure envers vos compatriotes. Vous êtes un arc-en-ciel dans ma journée.

    J'ai espéré entendre des excuses de certains médias, de certains chefs politiques, j'attends toujours et je doute que ce sera en vain.

    Merci de tout coeur Madame et puisse plusieurs de vos compatriotes pensent comme vous.

    5 Sept 2012 | Michèle Guay

  • I come from French Quebec. I did learned English, like most of my friends and like the rest of my generation. Bill 101 doesn't reach the Internet. Even my friends who live in 100% french speaking village know english. It helps them when they play video games. When they assembled a furniture. Etc. My feeling and my experience tell me that bilingualism is certainly increasing in the province both on the english and on the french side.

    I would like to point out a small analysis. I went to Dawson College. I worked in the English world of Montreal. I made friends with english people from many backgrounds. I notice a kind of passivity in politics when I walk in the english world. It appears to me that Canada is not a single nation. Regionalism are indeed getting stronger. Maritimes and Prairies are walking different roads. The Canadian people is not a people which has chosen its own constitution. The 1867 constitution has been created for the canadian people while it was still a dominion under the supervision of Westminster. The 1982 constitution has not been submitted to a canadian referendum, it was given to us by the political elite.

    The French quebec is a lot less passive towards politics. Being a citizen doesnt sum up to vote every 4 years. And I think that though it still appears as a far away dream, the sovereignty of Quebec has opened windows in the Quebeckers mind about the 'idea of a better society'.

    Quebeckers are thus a lot more active in their politics and I feel the sovereignist impulsion or stimulus has helped us imagine and create a society where men and women are a lot more equals, a society where we live in contemplation and respect of nature and its ressources, a society where we value health, education and redistribution of wealth. Social justice is a never-ending goal in everybody's mind and it does influence constantly our familial political debate.

    But I do cross a river each time I go from the French culture to the English culture or the other way around. They do not know much about the leaders of the French culture just as we do not know much about theirs. It fascinates me to realise that they don't know Veronique Cloutier or Guy A. Lepage. That they have never heard of Dominique Michel, Denise Filiatrault or Dédé Fortin.

    Language is such a huge obstacle between communities. But once this wall has fallen and once reciprocal respect, empathy and mutual understanding has been reached, everything is possible.

    5 Sept 2012 | Alexis

  • Thanks for all the encouraging comments that advocates the understanding of both culture. french & English.

    For the one who still don't understand and still don't care about French Canadian culture. Just try something : close your eyes and imagine if your part of land is english speaking and that the ROC is French, even the US is speaking french and the first international language is french. What will be your attitude for your culture?

    5 Sept 2012 | Patrick Wilson

  • @Waiter, regarding American tourists who feel like Montreal is less and less special. Do you think this is because they are being greeted in English in stores, or because local Anglophones are able to access healthcare or legal information in their preferred language?

    Or do you think this is, instead, the influx of American brands in the city, for better or for worse?

    A few months ago, Office de la langue françcaise went after a small business on Mont-Royal. Kif kif imports. Because they didn't believe the shop name was proper French (depsite its owner being a French professor). The store is next to a Subway, across from a Toronto Dominion Bank, a block from a Provigo and (formerly) a Dagwoods sandwich shop. Those businesses, somehow, remained unscathed. If you are afraid of Montreal staying Montreal (a city which is, admittedly, quite distinct from Quebec), do not pretend that locals, whatever their mother tongue, are trying to destroy it.

    5 Sept 2012 | Yantza

  • Thanks Lorraine! xx

    5 Sept 2012 | Dan

  • As a bilingual Anglophone in Montreal the thing I’ve observed with the French community is that their inability to speak English freaks the crap out of them! They know they are unprepared to face the world and so they fight for their “French” Quebec out of fear. Whenever I tell a French person maybe they should consider teaching their kids English they say “I got by with what I learned on the street so my kids will be fine”. If all you want for your children is to “get by” that is perfect for me that means my kids will have no competition when it comes time to look for a job. Back in the time of the black slaves it was forbidden to teach them to read and write for fear they would revolt. Keep them dump and easy to control, imagine if the whole Quebec population believed in educating their children to be bilingual we would be unstoppable!! The goal is not to have an educated population but to have a French population, seems ridiculous to me? In the end what do we care (Anglophones), we have the magic card that permits us to have a bilingual education. We will continue to do the thing that pisses off the French! We’ll take all the best jobs and have the option to leave whenever we like, they are stuck here no matter what!

    5 Sept 2012 | Bla Bla Bla

  • Hello All,

    I would like to point out a few things:

    -I did, in fact, grow up in the West Island.

    -I am, in fact, an adult

    and hey, this was a Facebook post. If I had meant for it to go viral I would have spell checked :)

    Besides all that, I apologize if my words offend you, it was a mere reaction to all the horrible things people were saying before and after the elections and I stand strongly for all that was written.

    Peace & Love

    5 Sept 2012 | Lorraine North

  • I'm a waiter downtown montreal and i was wondering why less and less americans customers are showing up. Some of them told me that since, year after year, they feel that montreal is no more a free place, meaning distincte from USA, they don't see the meening of travelling here. I guess, for those particular, they like people not ashamed to be different and proudly expressing themself. Of course, or tradition is tricultural and i believe i'm somewhere part of those. Elsewhere, within an ocean of english speaking, i think some precaution have to be taken. Finaly, since some Toronto subs are mostly labeled in chinese (nothing against chinese) without english translation, i wonder when they will follow Bill 101?

    5 Sept 2012 | F La

  • primo René Levesque was against passing a law to protect the language secondo si vous pensez qu un changement de gouvernement va changer bien des choses vous manquez de cultures politique tierco j ai hate que le referendum passe et qu on se separe vous assaierez par la suite de me prouver qu on n a ben faite.mais tant qu on le fera pas que voulez vous le gazon est plus vert l autre bord .c est pour ca qu il y a un paquet de quebecker qui travaille au états ou en alberta ALLO!!!!

    5 Sept 2012 | robert daly

  • À lire tous ces commentaires , il me semble clair qu'on ne s'entendra jamais , sauf exception et ce n'est pas avec des exceptions qu'on forme le couple idéal . Les anglophones qui n'accepteront jamais de reconnaître le fait français au Québec , et ne dites pas qu'il n'y en a pas , ce serait vraiment hypocrite , partirons sûrement après l'indépendance car oui , un jour , l'indépendance se fera . Quand ? Personne ne le sait mais cela va arriver . Et lâchez-nous avec votre fausse charité , vous allez me faire pleurer à force d'essayer de me faire croire que sans le canada nous ne serions qu'un petit pays pauvre replié sur lui-même . Il n'y a que vous et les ignorants que y croient encore . Si nous coutions si cher au Canada , pourquoi tous ce beau monde hors Québec se démèneraient autant pour nous garder dans ce canada ??? Pour une minorité d'anglophones qui y demeurent ??? À d'autres S.V.P. À partir de là nos relations seront peut-être plus cordiales je l'espère . Le fait français ne sera reconnu et respecté qu'une fois le Québec séparé et devenu un pays . Ce qui adviendra de notre économie nous regardera en tant que nation , ce n'est pas un concours de celui qui pisse le plus loin . En tant que société nous pouvons très bien vivre même si nous ne sommes pas aussi performant économiquement que le Canada , les États-Unis ... Des exemples de petits pays performants existent un peu partout sur la planète ( Suède , Finlande , Norvège , Danemark et j'en passe ) alors pourquoi pas nous . J'ai appris une chose dans la vie ,quand on a un rêve il ne faut justement pas écouter ceux qui ni croient pas , libre à eux de partir ou de rester et de bâtir avec nous . Tous seront les bienvenus . Ce n'est pas un crime ni du racisme de protéger sa langue et sa culture , tous les pays le font .

    5 Sept 2012 | René Savoie

  • Hate breeds Hate. That goes for both sides. Remember that.

    5 Sept 2012 | Johnny

  • Haters Will Hate and Troll's Will Troll.

    Such is the way of the internet....

    I don't think there are many anglo's in Montreal who wanted to see anyone killed last night. This screed strikes me as one line of bullshit after another.

    So.. I call bullshit on this entire post. I do know better than to get trolled on the internet tho so I won't bother with a rebuttal.. since an acquaintance of mine lost their life I have better things to do with my evening. The wake will likely be at Fouf if anyone wants to attend.

    5 Sept 2012 | haterswilhate

  • Where have the moderates gone?

    5 Sept 2012 | Chris

  • We had a political terrorist attak and an assassination attempt on Pauline Marois. It result to the death of one person. It was perpertrate by a Federalist of the Quebec anglophone cummunity. Is there a possibility that the hateful repetitive message from the anglophone medias here had play some role in order to motivate the violent act of that sick man?

    5 Sept 2012 | Vargeaise Paradise

  • "consider the continued use of the term "pure laine" " one says... that's a pretty funny (and common) one to tag Quebeckers in general as racist. The funny thing is I practically only ever heard anglophones use it!

    5 Sept 2012 | Simon

  • Hi,

    My parents are French (from France), I was born in Ottawa and lived most of my life in Montreal. I was harassed as a kid cuz I spoke french-french in a quebecois school, so I picked it up pretty quickly. I learned english from TV and I had a lot of english speaking and bilingual friends. I also learned Spanish throughout my life. All of this bullcrap doesn't mean anything more than opening up to others and new cultures. Without falling into the acceptance of every facets of theirs ways, you understand and communicate better.

    The only thing I see in all these discussions is always the problem never the solution, so here's one : just as you tell your kids when someone is being mean to them or hurting them, the solution is always your subjective view of the situation. If you want things to be better, laugh at racist comments as if they were a antique view on life. If you want to change others, don't, they'll find a way to live with the rest of us in peace over time, don't be as stubborn as them it's an energy consuming nonsense. If you want to live in peace, be so peaceful that noone could ever say anything negative about your color, language or country of origin. To be accepted is to act as if people that want to hurt you have nothing against you. From personnal experience, laughter is a pretty awesome tool. I've never seen it fail so far.

    Be at peace my friends and you will see people change around you.

    5 Sept 2012 | Justin

  • SIMPLE POINTS WITH LOGIC, BECAUSE I LIKE LOGIC

    I KNOW HOW THE SITUATION IS GETTING IN EUROPE AND OF COURSE I NOW HOW DISASTROUS IS THE ECONOMY IN THE US. STEPHEN HARPER ELIMINATED THE WHEAT BOARD, PROTECTED THE WORKERS, BLOCKED THE BANKS RIGHT BEFORE THEY WERE PURCHASING CDOs AND BOOSTED THE MINING SECTOR APPROVING COURAGIOUS PLANS EVEN FOR QUEBEC (THAT S REALLY PROGRESSIVE EVEN IF THE PARTY IS CALLED CONSERVATIVES)AND NOW CANADA IS WITH GERMANY THE ONLY WESTERN COUNTRY WHICH IS GOING GOOD AND IT IS A MODEL.TRUST ME OR READ SOME INTERNATIONAL NEWSPAPERS.

    THEN, PLEASE STOP SAYING THAT THE OTHER PROVINCES DO NOT LIKE QUEBEC BECAUSE QUEBEC HAS BEEN MAINLY A PROBLEM FOR THE WHOLE FEDERATION IN THE LAST YEARS...IT S LIKE AT THE KINDERGARTEN THEY TEND TO ISOLATE YOU IF YOU ALWAYS CRY ! THEN YOU SAID THAT YOU WANT SEPARATION...YOU ARE A DOUCHE BECAUSE NEITHER THE PQ WANTS IT... IF THE REACH IT THEY WILL DISAPPEAR THE DAY AFTER BECAUSE THEY WILL LOOSE THEIR MEANING...IT S LIKE WILEY THE COYOTE WHO CATCHES THE ROADRUNNER AND THEN HE COMMITS SUICIDE BECAUSE HE LOST HIS LIFE'S GOAL! SO THEY NEVER WANTED THE SEPARATION THEY SAY THAT JUST TO MOVE CROWDS OF FARMERS WHICH LIVES OUT OF THE MONTREAL ISLAND AND GET VOTES. LAST BUT NOT LEAST IF YOU DO NOT KNOW THE IMPORTANCE AND THE PRESTIGE OF THE ENGLISH COMMUNITY AND CULTURE IN MONTREAL YOU ARE REALLY UNEDUCATED THINK ABOUT MCGILL, THE VICTORIAN ARCHITECTURE ETC...YOU ARE A REAL SHAME FOR THE ANGLO COMMUNITY AND YOU EVEN NEED TO TAKE SOME COURSES ABOUT ECONOMICS AND POLITICS...I SUGGEST MCGILL...THEN STOP TALKING ABOUT IDEALS...IN POLITICS THE NEVER EXISTED...."RIGHTS FOR THE POOR" WHERE ARE U IN THE THIRD GRADE??? WAKE UP PLEASE...THANK YOU GOOD NIGHT AND SEE YOU SOON (NO, I DON T WANT TO SEE U AGAIN I M KIDDING).

    5 Sept 2012 | EDDIE

  • We should make a war like in braveheart. I'll be the first in the battlefield

    5 Sept 2012 | Maximus

  • PS: Nice attempt at trying to pretend you're an anglo and that you know fuck all about the west island. Next time how about discussing a place you actually know something about rather than using google maps or that one memory of that time your daddy took you to the west island 15 years ago.

    5 Sept 2012 | LMFAO

  • Thank you for spewing your garbage early on in the post. It allowed me to stop reading early on. Here's a piece of advice. When trying to shit on others for being ignorant, how about not sinking to the same level? It kind of effects the way people view your opinion. You're no better than the people you flame in fact you found an all new level of ignorance. Congratulations. PS half the people I know on the west island are francophone. But I bet since you've probably never been here, you didn't realize. I love when people who have never been here talk shit about us because of their own insecurities. QUEBEC IS NEVER GOING TO SEPARATE DEAL WITH IT LOL! FRENCH IS A DIEING LANGUAGE AND YOUR CULTURE IS DEAD, YOU WOULD NOT NEED TO PASS LAWS TO PROTECT IT IF IT WEREN'T THE CASE.

    See how fun that is? I waited until the end to make my immature ignorant statement. Too bad you probably haven't learned a thing anyways :)

    5 Sept 2012 | LOL

  • Wow, bravo!!!

    C'est avec de beaux gens, tels que vous, qu'on fera un Québec fort et unis;)

    5 Sept 2012 | Sophie Grenier

  • What offensive, condescending drivel.

    I can only assume that Ms North is not an adult - her childish and simplistic political opinions, poor grammar, and the reprehensible pro-assassination comments of her Facebook friends are all things I would expect of immature teenagers, not responsible grownups.

    5 Sept 2012 | Vancouverois

  • Dear Oliver, I do suspect this too.... something's wrong with the medias. Inside and outside Quebec. As if they really want to make sure that we hate each other. Something's fishy....

    Sun News is HORRIBLY biased... and is owned by Quebecor Media. Doesn't make sense!!

    5 Sept 2012 | Chris

  • I will start with the following: I agree that condoning violence against Pauline Marois, the PQ, or anyone for that matter is completely wrong. This has no place in Canadian society.

    But for the rest, I'm sorry, but this is a load of tripe. First of all, RANDOMLY CAPITALIZING WORDS does not magically prove your point. Now, I am no fan of Stephen Harper, but your vilification of the man is childish in it's utter simplicity. You claim he doesn't care about anyone other than money and business and that Quebec is progressive and likes social systems. That's nice and all, but how do you think Quebec pays for all of these wonderful social services? There's a reason why Quebec takes half of all equalization payments. We cannot afford all of these leftist ideals on our own. Big bad Stephen Harper and the rest of Canada that "does nothing for us" are footing the bill for all of our programs.

    And yes, I speak French. I am fine speaking French. It's a reality of living in Quebec. What I don't like is the government overstepping its bounds and entering into our private lives and dictating things that should be left on a personal level. What language I use at work, the language a small business owner has to use, what language my kids go to school in, what language an adult has to go to school in... These are invasive and strip away our rights in some vain attempt to "protect" a language. Instead of promoting the use of French, they strip away the use of other languages. It's terrible.

    So by all means, think you are cool and ironic and what not because you are Anglo that is hip to Separation and the French "situation". But to proclaim that the people being discriminated against in this province are racist is not only utterly absurd, it is insulting.

    But sure, since YOU HAVE ALL THE ANSWERS, and clearly UNDERSTAND things better than the rest of us COMPLAINING ANGLOS, and love those UPPERCASE LETTERS, I guess we should just sit there and take it.

    5 Sept 2012 | Shawn Langlois

  • Genevieve Piquette

    Thank you so much...

    5 Sept 2012 | Genevieve Piquette | Montréal



  • Now YOU as an ADULT will perhaps realize that in order to live somewhere where the primary language is French YOU SHOULD LEARN IT. It is a dying language in Canada and your inability to understand why francophone want to preserve it IS RACIST.

    It is not a racism if someone is unable to understand your beliefs due to lack of information.

    I am an anglophone asian-canadian from the west.. I wish learning a language is as easy as you said - I realized that I needed to learn French when I moved here after finding my love in Montreal. I invested lots of time and money to become a productive member of the society in QC and I am one now after 7 years, working in a hospital helping those in need in French & English. My French patients appreciate me serving them in French.. although not perfect.

    But to get to this point I struggled a lot (am still struggling), not because I did not want to learn French but because of the social atmosphere.. a few random people (ex. bus drivers, police) treated me with disrespect, told me to go back to my country and etc.. I spoke English to them not knowing how much it could bother them.

    Only I could understand where they were coming from (the reaction to English only, the disrespect I still don't understand) after I learned about the English oppression against Quebec in the past & how much Quebec people are concerned with preserving their culture/language..

    So please, dont call it racism. It is a lack of knowledge about QC.

    5 Sept 2012 | Jessica P

  • Great post and BTW about the media,

    I'm from Quebec City and I can tell you that while the french media won't portray anglophones as straight up "evil", there seems to be a negative undertone, even if it's subtle, that permeates through. When I moved to MTL, workin in a good 'ol call center and making new friends, I realized the dichotomy between anglo/franco was really being pumped. I've had maybe one bad experience. That's it. Nothing to justify what people in the rest of the province see.

    Also, when I read some articles in the Gazette (let's not even talk about the National Post) people who speak french are often portrayed as being anglo-haters. Which I can tell you, really isn't the case. Maybe you'll have one bad story but, not much.

    Is the media stuck in our parents' war or are we being played? I mean, what gives?

    5 Sept 2012 | Olivier Carrier

  • Thanks Miss North!

    5 Sept 2012 | Dave

  • This letter is angry, disjointed and inconsistent. I dont really see who the audience is supposed to be.

    5 Sept 2012 | Aminhotep

  • I cried of happiness

    5 Sept 2012 | Pat

  • Hi Kim,

    I am native French speaker, and deep separatist, but I don't connect with PQ values. They are a old party, and what you say about their need of power no matter what is deeply felt in the French community too.

    Marois is answering modern identity problems with old fashion solutions. "ohhh the evil English!!" O_o same with PLQ "Ohhh! The evil referendum. English people, beware! They will burn your schools down!!"

    So yeah, those solution that were maybe appropriated in the 80s. Yes it's true, French service declined in Montreal. But, wait! English service did not rise up?? Which means BILINGUAL service is rising! But, they never tell you that in an election.

    I too thought that the old war between English and French speaker was fading away, especially with this almost fully bilingual generation that is taking an active place in society. But, let's face it, Harper's measures that are slowly but surely wiping away everything that made French Quebecers proud of being CANADIAN is not helping the cause. It feels like the threat is still there! And worse, ROC is hating us all over the place in the news papers, no matter we are voting federalist or separatist. (NPD is federalist after all).

    Harper's way of governing might feel as backward for a lot of English Canadians too, but for a society that already (and kind of constantly) feels threaten, ever little slap on the face feels like a huge blow.

    I am a separatist, but for modern social reasons. Economical reasons. Here in Quebec we have different views of how we build a society. And I don't think that staying an united Canada will be profitable, for either parties. As Alberta's economy grows, our declines. We are not in tune with each other.

    We will never reach our expectations as a society for long as we have 100% of the problems and 50% of the means.

    Maybe Ontario will start feeling the same, now that they lost their economic grip over Canada's decision to the profit of Alberta.

    I stil don't understand what the results of these elections means. It's like no one really won. But something is changing inside's people mind. Some of the new parties are more in tune with today's reality. All we need is to give them a little push up. Forget about PQ, they will be history, in a decade or less I am sure of this. We have other options now.

    5 Sept 2012 | Chris

  • So sad of all this shit and hate. And as much as most of you say, "I know best" you are wrong most the time. I feel the world is with out center at times (extreme right and extreme left) where did common sense go! :( :( :(

    Its like the Average French people feels that English people hate them for just that being French and English people feels French hate them for the same reason. Really this is stupid.

    Still stop writing angry stuff and to try to be the ONE that's right. Can’t you people say how you feel with out being harsh? This all makes me so sad really from the Anglo to the native to the French. You know what? Well the English won against the French and First nations, and they ALL fought against the Americans and won. We did the same in WWII again we did this a 1 nation undivided. When we want to we can put all the shit aside and to what’s right but why can't we fucking do this when we are not at war? I would love my 2 girls to grow in a Canada where the people from the West coast and the ones from the East coast can be friends; and not where like now I all ways ear: "if you go in the West don't say you’re from Québec they will beat you up" and vice versa for the people in Alberta or BC. Canada is bigger then the USA and it feels so so smaller some times.

    5 Sept 2012 | the sad 1

  • The only thing I disagree with in your statement above is that french is a dying language in Canada. That's actually not true. It's not growing, but it isn't dying either. It's doing great in Quebec, almost too great, as we see an entire generation of francophones outside of Montreal not learn english (to their detriment, sadly).

    Anyways, the real enemy here is the media and the politicians. Both appeal to the lowest common denominator. Originally, this election wasn't even about sovereignty, but the Liberals and the CAQ used it as a tactic and the PQ were too stupid to not respond and stick to the issues that Quebeckers care about such as the economy, the student tuition, our crumbling infrastructure and especially the corruption. Then the media picks it up and runs with it and stupid people outside of Quebec (and frothing older generation west islander anglos) get all freaked out about Canada being destroyed.

    5 Sept 2012 | walkerp

  • Ha, funny times. The reason this article is pertinent is not because it's the most eloquent piece of writing ever; it's not. The reason it's pertinent is because it's rare to see an anglo recognize that the fear of losing your mother tongue is quite unsettling.

    Although I'm willing tpo recognize Marois' methods are not the best, I still find it weird for some anglos to be dumb enough to understand that because some francophone parents want to send their kids to English school does not mean it's a good idea. People want to do it because (sic) "it's the language of international business". Do you think francos fear of losing the business race? No, they're afraid to lose their language in a North American sea of English.

    Did you even try to stop to think what it would be like for your mother tongue, the epicentre of your culture, to fade away in the name of BUSINESS? I mean that seriously: beyond your little "us vs them" West Island ethnocentric mentality, did you EVER stop to wonder "How would I feel if I was afrain that my language was in danger of disappearing?" Although it might not happen, to be scared of it is enough to justify what a lot of you closed-minded people see as racist. Bill 101 was not created in a desire to reject anglos, it was created to protect the EXISTENCE of French in Canada.

    Do Quebecois racist exist? Yes they do. Does a Dollarama experience with two of those racists justify being an ethnocentric ass? No, it does not.

    Hey guys, remember the FLQ? Remember this terrible assasination caused by separatist terrorists? Anglos are usually quick to point it out to demonize both nationalism and sovereigntism.

    Why did you not "understand" that gesture? Ah right, because it did not fit with your own ethnocentric views. My bad... I guess a gesture does not weigh as much if it does not match your beliefs.

    Francos are scared of losing their language. Nobody is trying to demonize English. We're just trying to protect our mother tongue, because you refuse to speak it.

    5 Sept 2012 | Antoine

  • Well, I`m not allowed to speak in english at work.....

    5 Sept 2012 | Emily

  • There are racists in every country, every culture, as well as stupidity, so let's not generalize and be open about the other.

    5 Sept 2012 | Anne

  • I was born in Quebec, speak fluently in both languages and am a proud Anglophone. What I find humilating are situations like the one I suffered not too long ago standing in the middle of a dollar store, when two Francophones decided to berate the fact that products were still available in English. Things like this happen all the time here. And it's not supposed to have any effect on us?? Although this is my birth province and I should be able to have the same expectations of my rights as any Francophone does, I do not. This has been happening for decades and is nothing new. Anglos in Quebec are only good for two things: paying taxes and voting for/bailing out the Liberal Party (no matter how appaling their conduct or indifference to Anglos).

    Up until recently, I thought we were entering a time where Francophones didn't feel so threatened anymore (having removed most access to English education amongst other things) and that we would focus on strengthening this province in every other way. We need to compete at a global level in this province and that doesn't mean restricting English instruction. Quite the contrary. English is the international language of business. Francophones recognize this and would like to send their children to English school - but Seperatists just keep shooting everyone in the foot.

    Marois' words are devicive and they incite violence. While I don't condone what happened last night, I was no where near surprised. In fact, what has stuck me as odd is all of the surprised commentary I've been hearing from the media. This type of violence can happen anywhere with the right kind of combination of fear, ignorance and people tiptoeing on the edge of madness. Even last night, Marois' victory speech was peppered with language that was made to sound like Quebec was already a country. IT PISSES PEOPLE OFF. Marois is not a leader. She is ego gone mad with a healthy side order of win-at-all-costs.

    I feel sorry for the FB poster. Clearly they do not comprehend that promoting one culture at the expense and anihalation of another is violent history repeating itself. I have lived in other provinces where their have been pockets of French communities that are celebrated and respected - it's a world of difference to what we have here. Marois wants to obliviate English from Quebec and I'm not comforted by the fact that the PQ-got-in-with-a-minority-gov't-therefore-have-little-power. Before she was elected, Marois was already making her views clear by stating that too much English was being spoken in Montreal. And just the other night, people speaking English were verbally attacked for doing so. When will the madness end?

    Marois isn't capable of governing - so she makes up issues, digs up ancient history to ensure her personal agenda succeeds. She cares nothing about this province or its people, Francophone or Anglophone alike.

    5 Sept 2012 | Kim

  • As a Quebec born Anglophone with mostly Francophone friends in Quebec I have to say I find most of this ridiculous, but I'll take it point by point:

    Firstly, I do agree that anyone who said " THEY ARE SAD that Pauline Marois was not assassinated" is indeed hateful and should be ashamed!

    Secondly, anyone who needs to be comforted by "you WILL NOT be evacuated in the next few weeks." need not be bothered with. No one I know personally (anglo or franco) considers the PQ victory a vote for separation, nor believes there will be a referendum anytime soon nor thinks it would succeed even if there was one.

    Here's where you really lose me: "But guess what? Canada has not helped you in any way.". Please keep in mind that Canadians have given Quebec a quarter of a trillion dollars in equalization payments since 1957, half of all the money the program has handed out. Over that span of more than 50 years, Quebec has always been the biggest beneficiary, and has never been a net contributor to equalization. And before you say "yes but we paid into the program", no, Quebec has received $2.36 for every $1 it spent. I'm not a fan of Harper, but while you're picking on him, I'll remind you that in 2006 The Bloc Québécois threatened to topple the government if the Tories did not give an additional $3.9 billion to Quebec to compensate for a fictitious fiscal imbalance . By 2007 the Harper government effectively gave that money to Quebec to which Charest and Duceppe basically said "Thanks and where's the rest?"

    So if you're going to brag about being "the most progressive province in Canada", don't turn around and spit at the other provinces who have been responsible enough to acknowledge they can't afford to live the lifestyle you're living while they pay for it. (Please don't let me see someone say "yes but we pay more taxes", this really has to stop).

    I won't deny there are English racists and that racism should be confronted wherever it is found. But please recall the hearings on "reasonable accommodation" and consider the continued use of the term "pure laine" (literally meaning pure wool... deny it if you will, it reeks of Nazi Germany). All this to say it's not like Quebec doesn't have it's own share of racism problems.

    5 Sept 2012 | PunkPanther

  • Sorry for being curt about the typo, it is a good article.

    The problem is that people are entrenched and don't vote based on what parties can do for them but rather based on what they've been raised to believe.

    Sovereignty is not a language issue but the media (those who control the media) love to frame it as such because it is a 'divide and conquer' tactic.

    We can't properly mobilize when we fight amongst ourselves and that's just the way they want it.

    5 Sept 2012 | J

  • I am a translator. My job is building bridges between cultures. I love my job.

    The voices of tolerant, open-minded people are being drowned by aggressive media hype and aggressive people. We should send the bigots to Pluto. And negotiate sensible compromises with everyone's rights protected.

    I am a Franco but my ancestor on father's side is a British Navy deserter who jumped ship at île d'Orléans in 1829. I have the two cultures in me. The hatemongering deeply depresses me.

    Always good to meet tolerant people, je vous remercie.

    5 Sept 2012 | Line Merrette

  • Wish I had said that with as much UMPH! as this FB friend.

    5 Sept 2012 | Mel

  • Frédéric Guindon

    @J:

    True. We made the correction.

    5 Sept 2012 | Frédéric Guindon

  • You spelled 'borders' wrong.

    The way you wrote it, it means someone renting a room; a boarder.

    5 Sept 2012 | J

  • Uhm, Only Quebec and Ottawa surroundings speaks french in your "billingual" country ?

    You, sir, are hilarious.

    Ever heard of Manitoba ?

    Ever heard of Acadians ?

    5 Sept 2012 | @Johnny

  • To quote the COW....Pauline Marois....."It is the responsibility of everyone that wishes to call Quebec their home to learn and assimilate the local culture, not replace it with their own"...REALLY???? What exactly is the culture???? Bitch...please!!! This Anglo-Franco war would have never happened had the settlers followed and carried out the tradition of the Natives. Have respect for the real owners of this land The Native Americans are the real people of Canada!! I don't see anyone following their culture which has true meaning to life and nature. Did any Anglo-Franco actually learn and teach their children to speak the language of the people of this land? NO!!!! So stop this stupidity on both sides. Do not claim that your language and culture are to be followed and preserved!!!! If you think you are the superior being, think again!!! Perhaps all the Natives should throw out those who choose to disobey their beliefs, disrespect their culture disregard their pleas and treat their land like you own it!!! Pauline Marois....if you don't like it here get the fuck out!!

    5 Sept 2012 | A real pity!!

  • Oh come on. Seriously? Half educated rants. THAT's what I hate. 30+ million people in Canada. They are told that we are a "bilingual" country. Well guess what. We're not. Ottawa (and regions), Quebec, that's about it.

    Yes, I agree with you. If you live in Qc you should speak French. But guess what else? It shouldn't be forced by Law to learn it, nor to prevent people from attending English schools. Companies with clients internationally or in other Provinces shouldn't be forced to have a certain percentage of "Franco" computers. Or be forced to have meetings in French if 1 of 20 people don't speak English. Why shouldn't the uni-lingual French learn English? It's the language of international business for crying out loud!

    Forcing a language on others, preventing people from learning a language, forcing companies to operate in a specific language, not having access to English Social Services, not having access to English Government Services, constantly being harassed by people IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD YOU GREW UP IN BILINGUALLY, walking downtown speaking English with friends and getting yelled at fro speaking English, being refused service to buy subway tickets because the agents "don't serve the English" (even though they were visiting).... THAT's hate... THAT's racism (which, FYI, takes many forms).

    sigh

    You grow a culture, a language, by fostering it. By making it look and sound attractive. By showing the good it has. How much it can contribute to people and vice versa. By having community events and centers that accept other cultures and languages rather than just the one. By showing good customer service even though it's difficult to speak English (or French for that matter). By helping to correct errors in speech rather than mocking it.

    I love my Province. I love my languages (English, French, Italian). I love my area, my work, my people. I love learning about other cultures by choice, not by force of Law.

    I hate discrimination. I hate dis-unity. I hate when language and culture is used as a primary political tactic rather than the real issues of economy, infrastructure, health and education. It's manipulation. I hate that too.

    5 Sept 2012 | Johnny

  • As an anglophone Qeubecer, who do you think that you are to accuse us, as a group, of racism and language ignorance? As if being an anglophone made us want that psycho to actually kill someone? As if being an anglophone means we vote on one issue, and that's all about Bill 101 - but apparently you didn't do your homework, because Bill 101 actually doesn't affect anglophones much at all. Its a bill designed to keep francophones and allophones from learning english.

    More problems I have with this. Quebec is voting more and more progressive? Really? The last 9 years of PLQ government are going more progressive? You do realize that Charest was the leader of the PCs, right? Not to mention the rise of the ADQ (our socially right wing party), now under the guise of the CAQ.

    In fact, even with Marois in power, we have a right wing majority in government.

    Canada hasn't done anything for us? How about health care? How about the Charter of Rights and Freedoms? You can hate Harper and still like Canada - one election is hardly reason to separate.

    I'm a Quebecker, and I speak French. And everyone in Canada (not just Quebec) should be fully bilingual - I firmly believe that missing either language is missing too much.

    You think the problem is that anglophones don't want to preserve French? Oh yeah, there are some anglos who hate francophones, just like there are some francophones who hate anglos, and some white people who hate black people. They are a minority, and they ARE racist - but most of us are tired, so very tired, that so many people in Quebec seem to think that being pro-french means that they have to also be anti-english and anti-immigrant.

    Lean French if you're going to live in Quebec. On that topic, I am with you 100% - but the rest? Your blatant assumptions and generalization about the anglo community, as if we don't speak french, as if we vote on one issue? And your personal idea that Quebec is a super progressive, leftist wonderland (I mean, really? Herouxville remind you of anything? The right-wing majority in government? And I have difficulty calling the PQ very left-wing... QS is a solid leftist party, I'll give you that, but the PQ is more interested in getting power than any leftwing doctrine)? Not so much.

    5 Sept 2012 | CarlPD

  • I grew up in the West Island. Although my parents are francophones, I went to pre-school in english. I proceeded to go to elementary and high school in french and then to college in english. Many of my friends are anglophones. Many of my friends are francophones. Some of them even speak spanish, greek, arabic, etc... And I am a separatist. And I want all of the great people I've met along the way to be part of my country. ALL of them (ok, maybe I'd leave a few behind...) Although I applaud the sentiment of the writer of this text, I wish it was said in a more peaceful way. I don't think anybody will convince anybody with accusations and CAPITAL LETTERS. I was also appalled by the comments of some of my facebook friends. I have decided not to answer hate posts. I am going to take a few weeks to regroup and rest (it has been a CRAZY campaign). I then plan to get my ducks in a row and keep convincing my fellow human beings, one person at a time, with lots of love and strong arguments. That's all we can really do, right?

    5 Sept 2012 | Marilou Emard

  • Merci de rappeler le fait que nous sommes avant tout des êtres humains qui avons des intérêts communs et un avenir à définir ENSEMBLE, malgré nos divergences idéologiques et nos systèmes de valeur parfois insolubles. J'ai grandi dans l'Ouest-de-l'île et j'en ai ras le bol de nos affrontements linguistiques et de la victimisation symptomatique des anglos au sein d'une province francophone COLONISÉE. Merci, je veillerai à diffuser cette lettre dans mes contacts.

    5 Sept 2012 | Valérie Charest

  • I speak Ojibwa

    5 Sept 2012 | Brandon

  • Born in a french family in B.C., raised in Quebec City and moved in Montreal in 1999. I lived in many of neighborhoods in Montreal, and my favorite being, Little Italy.

    When I went Dawson College, I must say the students liked least, were from the West Island, they seem to share the same understanding and opinions for the Province, as a Torontonian. Which each new generation from the West Island I meet, the more I lose hope. Hell, I went to school with people that wanting to french!

    If you were born as a Montrealer and you speak worse french than Harper, you are ruining this great city! Can you tell I'm mad about how people from Montreal voted? I don't know if people from Quebec City voting for CAQ, did more harm.

    Still I can't believe that best Pauline Marois's best strategy was begging for a majority government!

    5 Sept 2012 | phil

  • I chose to live in Quebec because it had a LIberal majority (and also, because I love speaking French, btw). I don't feel lucky for being in the (now) "most progressive" Province in Canada, specially because I come from a left-wing country that has pretty much criminalize anyone who thinks different.

    Any way, the scenario changes, and now that Quebec start to show its true colors, I'll probably chose to move. Hope to find a nice francophone community in another province, and to my fellow quebecers, best of lucks.

    5 Sept 2012 | Harold

  • Really well expressed. I could not find a better way to express how I feel... It is horrifying to read all these hatred messages from inhabitants of Quebec and from around Canada. Ashame, I am too.

    5 Sept 2012 | Christine

  • So, English people hate French people, French people hate English people, English people also hate English people, especially if they hate French people, and French people love English people if they hate English people who hate French people? Vraiment? Seriously, all of this is ridiculous. Can we please just agree to disagree? No need for bathrobe shootings, poorly photoshopped Nazi memes, angry FB rants, or any other US vs THEM sentiments. Je hais parce que tu hais?? Franchement! The problem is the hating.

    5 Sept 2012 | Bilingually annoyed

  • Merci !!! Merci d'avoir une penseé progressive et ouverte sur un changement politique qui peut-être, n'avantage pas les anglais mais qui veux le bien de tout le monde et une juste part ! Elle a raison, nous somme une province francophone de plus en plus anglophoniser et tout ce qu'on l'on veut c'est préserver notre langue ! Oui l'anglais est important... mais allez vous anglophoniser le Liban ? Non. Les Québécois ont le coeur gros, on acceuille tout le monde à bras ouvert parce que l'on sait qu'ici, tout le monde est bien ! (Sans généralisation non plus) Merci de respecter que vous êtes chez vous vous aussi... mais que les gens natif de cette province ce font manger tout cru par le reste du monde et que nous essayons simplement de nous défendre !

    5 Sept 2012 | Axel

  • Very well written. If all Anglos in Quebec were bilingual, or even better, bicultural, there wouldn't be a language debate in the province, nobody would have died last night. Richard Bain lost a gasket, yet, but seeing so many hate messages from Anglophones throughout Twitter and Facebook, asking for Marois' death, shows a bigger problem with the Anglophones in Quebec. Learn French, put up, or move out. It's not by making the majority angry that things will improve. The last time we got pissed, we beat Germans in Normandie and Caen. ;-)

    Trully, I believe that the more people will be bilingual, the most unilinguals look stupid. I tell my unilingual franco friends the same thing. Bilingual people have an easier time to find a job elsewhere in anglo Canada. Being bilingual should be cool.

    What happens when you see two bilinguals talking to each other? The Franco speaks English, the Anglo speaks French, it's a beautiful thing to see.

    5 Sept 2012 | Daniel Bigras

  • fucking brilliant! Nice work pal.

    5 Sept 2012 | edward

  • I have one word to say to Mis North : MERCI !

    My mother is English, and father is french, and I completely agree with her.

    And I also think that English media is partly responsible for all that is happening with its disinformation about the PQ and Marois ! Using fear and hate to sell their papers and to get ratings the MaCleans magazine way !. To a point that a lot of anglophone are saying to me that there afraid of Marois, that they will loose their rights even comparing her to the NAZI regime ! Enough now ! Let's stop this stupidity.

    Anglophones have their own schools , institutions, hospitals everything, much more than francophone have in other provinces. And you will always keep that, because we are proud of what and who you are and that is also part of OUR Québec.

    Never it was said that you would lose your rights, institution or that we would kill or exterminate you .So stop this association !!!

    I am half anglophone, and I'm sick and tired of all this bullshit !

    Peace !

    5 Sept 2012 | Jean-Pierre Pérusse

  • You should be ashamed, but not because of the west islanders, but because of the way you portray your understanding of them. Clearly your views are limited and racist in their own right. It's not because I a few idiots that don't value life over opinion that you can claim to have a higher understanding of all Anglos everywhere?? Seriously who do you think you are and what

    Makes your views more righteous than anyone's else's?? Extremeism on either side is just that, Extremeism!!! And you se to be on the mirror side of anglos you're describing!!! For most Anglos it's not about can't or won't or bigger signs!!! It's about another government interfering in yet another aspect of their lives. Meaning they lose choices!! Less freedoms!! Why don't you get that?? One freedom at a time, it's no big deal!! Wrong!! It's a very big deal and you know what?? Most Francos will agree with that!!!!

    5 Sept 2012 | Claudio

  • Merci mille fois! Ça donne espoir. I have lots of anglophone friends who also thinks that way.

    Ensemble on peut passé à travers des épreuves comme nous avons subies tel qu'hier...

    5 Sept 2012 | Hopefull

  • Thank you for this. As an anglophone who escaped the west island a little while ago, I totally understand your sentiments, and I am glad that I am among an increasing number of anglophones who slowly, and, I hope, surely, will come to the realization that the Neo-Liberal values of the ROC have no place here in Quebec.

    5 Sept 2012 | Vincent

  • Mostly quite good, though I can never see past the spelling mistakes. And she definitely needs to look up the definition of racist. As many other people do.

    5 Sept 2012 | Evadee

  • I thank Andreanne Bouchard for her comment...It reaches my heart...I was brought up on english airbase for primary school, secondary school, I went to cegep in french with follow-up french courses...But what i learned about Quebec is that it is not because of the french language and their cultures that they want to separate...We have our riches here that the rest of Canada keep pulling out. We pay two taxes, we have hardly any say in a majority , we are laughed at and rediculed ...We want to preserve our french and culture but share it with everyone who loves quebec ..there is a threat in staying with Harper gouvernement...its been going for years...but people don't understand...Thank you Lorrain North for explaining to the english community that we are not against them...Quebec would be even better as a country for everyone...We are Quebeckers, not anglos nor frenchies, but Quebeckers that want respect and recognition in this world...

    5 Sept 2012 | carole snape

  • L'Allemagne a des politiques linguistiques strictes pour les nouveaux arrivants et personne le traite de fasco....

    5 Sept 2012 | gawagai

  • "...your inability to understand why francophone want to preserve [the french language] IS RACIST."

    You need to re-evaluate your understanding of racism.

    5 Sept 2012 | whatev

  • MERCI pour votre bon sens et intelligence, ça fait chaud au coeur!

    5 Sept 2012 | LG

  • Bravo, well (if angrily) said. Very true all around.

    5 Sept 2012 | Claire

  • Oh yeah! Bravo!

    Même chose pour les immigrants. Non ils ne vont pas tous nous déporter et ce, même si le Québec devient un pays. Il faut arrêter de paranoïer . Les Québécois de souche sont des gens bien pour la majorité. Comme tous les autres peuples.

    5 Sept 2012 | Natalia

  • Gabriel Deschambault

    Grrrrr... J'étais trop jeune (et trop au Lac-St-Jean) lors de l'élection du PQ en 1994 pour me rappeler si les fédéralistes de la Province étaient aussi hystériques et alarmistes qu'en cette année 2012. À en entendre, nous sommes que des fascos qui ne veulent se séparer que pour réaliser une purification ethnique basée sur la langue et l'origine. C'est foutument insultant et tellement irrespectueux. Peut-être que la masse importante à l'intérieur et à l'extérieur de l'État québécois qui nie, ignore et/ou méprise notre culture et surtout qui refuse d'y participer devrait faire son examen de conscience et évaluer son rôle dans la situation intenable dans laquelle se retrouve notre confédération.

    Si tous les anglos savaient le plaisir et la fierté que je ressens quand l'un d'entre eux s'exprime dans la langue de Laferrière...

    5 Sept 2012 | Gabriel Deschambault

  • Andréanne Bouchard

    Thank you! I was seriously wondering if there were anglophones Quebeckers who thought that way, who shared what I believe are the values of Quebec and who don't feel threatened by our need to preserve french, who embrace this langage and the culture that goes with without rejecting their own (or thinking that's what it meant). I strongly believe that an anglophone community that is able to live in a sovereign Quebec, that is certainly able to live in english because, after all, we are surrounded by the States and Canada. A community that is very nationalist toward Quebec, the history they share with the french, the values, the ideas. I was worried that this was in my mind but you show me that this vision exists. Thank you, you make me feel hopeful and happy about our ability to live together, to benefit from what we can learn from each other, to share an understanding about who we are, where we wanna go and how we wanna do it as a whole, as Quebeckers, not as francophones or anglophones.

    5 Sept 2012 | Andréanne Bouchard

  • And that's why I'm happy to read English.

    Thank you for that Lorraine North, it is truly appreciated. And tell your friends that even if we separate one day, we will always love you and want you to be happy no matter what.

    5 Sept 2012 | Amen

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